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Subtropical Storm Karen Forecast Discussion Number 1

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Issued at 300 AM GMT Fri Oct 10 2025

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WTNT41 KNHC 100251
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Subtropical Storm Karen Discussion Number   1
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL112025
300 AM GMT Fri Oct 10 2025

Over the last 12-18 hours, NHC has been monitoring a small area of 
low pressure (AL96) embedded in a much larger upper-level trough, 
located about 400 n mi to the northwest of the northernmost Azores 
Islands. The system was originally a frontal low that quickly became 
occluded early on 8 October. Since that time, the low has been 
gradually shedding its remaining frontal features as shallow to 
moderate convection formed near the center. Earlier today, there was 
a Sentinel-1A Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) pass that indicated the 
system no longer was attached to frontal boundaries and had a 
contracted radius of maximum wind of 20 n mi. Since that time, the 
convective cloud tops have cooled to -50 to -55 C around the center, 
with a distinct warm spot seen near the center. A recent WSFM 
microwave pass also indicated a nearly closed cyan ring on the 
37-GHz channel. 00 UTC subjective satellite classifications on the 
system were a ST1.5/25-30 kt from TAFB, and a T3.0/45 kt from SAB. A 
blend of all of these various data points indicate that the system 
has made the transition to Subtropical Storm Karen. The initial 
intensity is set at 40 kt, in agreement with a recently received 
scatterometer pass which had a peak wind of 38 kt. This also matches 
the special 02 UTC fix of ST 2.5/35-40 kt received from TAFB.

The subtropical storm is moving slowly northeastward, estimated at 
050/8 kt. Karen is already well established in the mid-latitude 
westerlies for being at such a high latitude, and is likely to be 
caught up by another mid-latitude trough that is digging in from the 
west. The track guidance in in pretty good agreement on a 
northeastward motion with a gradual acceleration over the next 24-36 
hours, and the NHC track forecast is roughly in the middle of the 
guidance envelope, close to the simple and corrected consensus 
aids. 

While Karen has made the transition to a subtropical storm, it still 
remains fully embedded in a large upper-level low, so large in fact 
that it has helped the shear over the system remain fairly low and 
has enabled the convection to coalesce near the center. Very cold 
upper-level temperatures also appear to be contributing to the 
convective vigor, allowing cloud tops of -50 C to persist near the 
center. However, even colder sea-surface temperatures lie ahead of 
Karen's path, and it seems like the system only has about a day or 
so before it is quickly overtaken by the next mid-latitude trough. 
The global models show the small cyclone opening up into a trough by 
48 h, and it is also possible the system could become post-tropical 
before then if it loses its current organized convection. This 
intensity forecast is in general agreement with the mean of the 
intensity guidance. 

 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INIT  10/0300Z 44.5N  33.0W   40 KT  45 MPH
 12H  10/1200Z 45.6N  31.7W   40 KT  45 MPH
 24H  11/0000Z 47.8N  29.5W   40 KT  45 MPH
 36H  11/1200Z 50.6N  28.0W   35 KT  40 MPH
 48H  12/0000Z...DISSIPATED
 
$$
Forecaster Papin

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